Comments on: Affiliates Marketers and Our Negative Stigma http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/ We are here to increase your profit. Period. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:39:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Scott Weaver http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-690 Scott Weaver Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:30:54 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-690 @jayson: Hah, yeah. Seems like a publicity stunt if I ever saw one. @jayson: Hah, yeah. Seems like a publicity stunt if I ever saw one.

]]> By: jayson http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-689 jayson Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:26:53 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-689 Guy is notorious for being a loud-mouth, go-against-the-grain type of guy. Months ago when I heard he was going to be at ASW, "oh boy" came to mind. Seemed like a way to get some buzz going around his search engine. The guy could have easily went to the SMX conference that was around the same time in Cali, but he opted for ASW - weird choice. Most likely because he would have been irrelevant there. Guy is notorious for being a loud-mouth, go-against-the-grain type of guy. Months ago when I heard he was going to be at ASW, “oh boy” came to mind.

Seemed like a way to get some buzz going around his search engine. The guy could have easily went to the SMX conference that was around the same time in Cali, but he opted for ASW - weird choice. Most likely because he would have been irrelevant there.

]]> By: Scott Weaver http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-687 Scott Weaver Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:21:55 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-687 Aditya and Ruck both make a good point. I'm not really sure who invited him or why but one thing is for certain, he's stirring things up and giving himself a lot of press. In fact, check this out: http://google.com/trends?q=calacanis&date=2008 Aditya and Ruck both make a good point. I’m not really sure who invited him or why but one thing is for certain, he’s stirring things up and giving himself a lot of press. In fact, check this out:

http://google.com/trends?q=calacanis&date=2008

]]> By: Ruck http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-686 Ruck Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:23:46 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-686 Who's Jason Calcanis? As if anyone really gives a shit what he thinks. Most likely after the keynote everyone went home and continued their "spammy" ways. If he wrote the checks I would be more inclined to maybe throw a glance his way. For now, I simply read around the web and realize while he did sell a multi million dollar company, why would you invite him to speak at an affiliate seminar if he wasn't an expert in the field? A little misleading I think. Anyway how's life? You rock, keep it real, Ruck Who’s Jason Calcanis? As if anyone really gives a shit what he thinks. Most likely after the keynote everyone went home and continued their “spammy” ways. If he wrote the checks I would be more inclined to maybe throw a glance his way. For now, I simply read around the web and realize while he did sell a multi million dollar company, why would you invite him to speak at an affiliate seminar if he wasn’t an expert in the field? A little misleading I think.

Anyway how’s life? You rock, keep it real,
Ruck

]]> By: Aditya Kumar Singh http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-684 Aditya Kumar Singh Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:39:13 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-684 Well, I find people approaching me here selling insurance products (not through the internet). They get commissions from the companies for marketing their products. Thats the same thing we are doing ... "Marketing" other's products using the Internet, generating sales for them using whatever method possible. Getting them customers for a fees. Jason is too jealous ...... Who invited him to give such a lecture affiliate summit when he doesnt really understand what affiliates are. They are marketers which were there 100 years back and will be forever. Well, I find people approaching me here selling insurance products (not through the internet). They get commissions from the companies for marketing their products. Thats the same thing we are doing … “Marketing” other’s products using the Internet, generating sales for them using whatever method possible. Getting them customers for a fees.

Jason is too jealous …… Who invited him to give such a lecture affiliate summit when he doesnt really understand what affiliates are. They are marketers which were there 100 years back and will be forever.

]]> By: Scott Weaver http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-683 Scott Weaver Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:09:41 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-683 @Neil: I don't think the intention of most sites is to dupe anyone into doing anything illegal or that they wouldn't otherwise want to. Sure, we use a funnel to get people to the offer page but once they're there, it's up to them to complete the sale. I mean, are offers any more shady than the fine print at the bottom of any contact with, say, a cell phone company or any more gimmicky than perhaps, search software that is written by humans? I say nay. @Neil: I don’t think the intention of most sites is to dupe anyone into doing anything illegal or that they wouldn’t otherwise want to. Sure, we use a funnel to get people to the offer page but once they’re there, it’s up to them to complete the sale.

I mean, are offers any more shady than the fine print at the bottom of any contact with, say, a cell phone company or any more gimmicky than perhaps, search software that is written by humans? I say nay.

]]> By: Scott Weaver http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-682 Scott Weaver Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:05:30 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-682 @Tom: I agree with you mostly, but how long will that take? According to Wikipedia, affiliate marketing in general started in between 1994 and 1996. Fourteen years later, here we are and still there are people up in arms. It's going to be a while. :) @Tom: I agree with you mostly, but how long will that take? According to Wikipedia, affiliate marketing in general started in between 1994 and 1996. Fourteen years later, here we are and still there are people up in arms. It’s going to be a while. :)

]]> By: Scott Weaver http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-680 Scott Weaver Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:55:24 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-680 @will: Exactly. He makes a false comparison between an individual and an entire company. Even if it were a small group of guys, it's still not comparable to a large company who does multiple millions/billions of dollars. @will: Exactly. He makes a false comparison between an individual and an entire company. Even if it were a small group of guys, it’s still not comparable to a large company who does multiple millions/billions of dollars.

]]> By: Neil http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-679 Neil Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:16:10 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-679 ps: I put the wrong website if you do not mind changing it for me :-) ps: I put the wrong website if you do not mind changing it for me :-)

]]> By: Neil http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-678 Neil Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:15:30 +0000 http://www.afftoolbox.com/2008/03/05/affiliates-marketers-and-our-negative-stigma/#comment-678 What I think makes us look bad is when affiliates promote shady offers like ringtones. We are pretty much influencing some 14 year old kid to put their phone number in and then get grounded when there parents get the bill. On top of this lots of the best paying offers are the "shady" offers so it puts us in a bad spot. I even promoted one of these offers as my first campaign. It charges 2.95 for shipping then 45 bucks a month. Only problem is that 45 was in super small print. What I think makes us look bad is when affiliates promote shady offers like ringtones. We are pretty much influencing some 14 year old kid to put their phone number in and then get grounded when there parents get the bill. On top of this lots of the best paying offers are the “shady” offers so it puts us in a bad spot. I even promoted one of these offers as my first campaign. It charges 2.95 for shipping then 45 bucks a month. Only problem is that 45 was in super small print.

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